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From: Bjørn Stadil <bjorn@s...>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:30:32 -0600
Subject: Re: [openppc] PowerPC based Desktops
On Monday 29 October 2001 04:03 pm, you wrote:
> Obviously the PowerPC is doing well in servers
Only IBM's Power4 is doing well. There is nothing important in the server
market based on G3 or G4
>and embedded applications like settop boxes.
No set-top boxes are a flop. It's in the Communications area where they are
doing OK, Not well but OK.
> That said, has anyone on this list noticed an increased willingness on the
>parts of the PowerPC players, IBM and Motorola, to produce the SoCs
Not really. They major exception that comes to mind though is IBM's
derivative for the Nintendo GameCube. There is rumours that they will make
the chip available to other large players.
>discretes that system builders need to compete with Intel on the desktop?
They have given up on the desktop.
Intel is positioning the Xscale Arm based processor as the Processor of
choice for lowpower requirements. They are prices lower than PowerPC and you
can buy them in smaller quantities. Intel and TI understands that to
develope a new market its not smart to gouge the innovative smaller
companies. Moto haven't got a clue. As long as Galvin runs the show they
will continue to deteriorate.
>
> Is the lack of applications that will run on a PowerPC platform an issue
that is preventing PowerPC on the desktop from becoming reality?
No not yet, but soon due to lack of mindshare, and developers more
interested in ARM.
>
> Obviously there is the price issue. Volume issues aside, is there a
fundamental reason that a desktop Soc with a PowerPC core has to be more
expensive than such a Soc with a Pentium core?
No its a smaller core so it should be cheaper. The volume / police is what
drives this.
>
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Bjorn Stadil
bjorn@s...
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