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    From: he.yuzhang@m...
    Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:41:36 +0100
    Subject: Re: [usb] Re: usb-digest V1 #80
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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "John Paul Aguiling" <johnpaolo_a@e... > 
    To: usb@o...  
    Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:14:42 +0800 
    Subject: [usb] Re: usb-digest V1 #80 
    
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >     Hello everybody... I am just new here in the society. I was 
    > wondering if people subscribe here are professionals. As I read 
    > different kind of newsletter I received in USB. I was amazed to the 
    > different stories and that I can relate to them. I'm just a student 
    > here in the Philippines but I was not involve to such organizations 
    > like this. I would like to have a brief knowledge about USB some 
    > are designing WOW! How impressive. I am designing too as a 
    > graduating student but its about PIC programming, which involve 
    > interface to PC. Anyway to much for that, I am interested much more 
    > in USB because I thirst knowledge for this device and I barely know 
    > these things. Thank you very much for different information, I hope 
    > there is an illustrations involve, so I can also do it practically 
    > at home. 
    > 
    > usb@o...  wrote: 
    > 
    > > 
    > > usb@o... 	 usb-digest V1 #80 
    > > 
    > > 
    > 
    > >------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---- 
    > >From: "Luis J. Perez" <luis.perez@d... > 
    > >Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:11:35 +0200 
    > >Subject: Re: [usb] question about the DLL in the UTMI 
    > > 
    > >Jiang daosan wrote: 
    > >> 
    > >>  Hi, Luis: 
    > >> 
    > >>      Thank you so much for your answer.  However, I think 
    > there maybe something 
    > >> to talk about more, As you written: 
    > >> >To design a HS PLL you need an external clock of 480x4 
    > MHz (at least, I 
    > >> >think) to obtain the data signal synchronized with the 
    > internally 
    > >> >extracted 480 MHz clock. 
    > >> I was wonder that there is some mistake? As the external 
    > clock of 480x4 MHz is 
    > >> so high, it may be impossibe in practice. I saw the needed 
    > external clock in 
    > >> Phlips ISP1501 is 12MHz. In my opinion, the internal local 
    > 480MHz clock is 
    > >> produced by the Clock Multiplier with the external 12MHz 
    > Clock in the UTM, 
    > >> And then it was made some Phase delay by the HS DLL to 
    > synchronized to the clock of 
    > >> the incoming data. That delayed Clock is the exacted 
    > clock. Am I right ? 
    > >> 
    > > 
    > >Yes, sorry, I was thinking on my design... 
    > > 
    > >The delayed clock you are referring is the extracted clock (480 
    > MHz 
    > >one). But, how to 
    > >design in HDL a Digital PLL for HS? I don't know another way of 
    > >syncronizing both clocks (internal and the incoming data one) 
    > than 
    > >sampling the incoming data with a quicker clock. Any other 
    > idea? 
    > > 
    > > 
    > 
    >=====================================================
    === 
    > >Luis Jose Perez Lafuente      	luis.perez@d...  
    > >Design Engineer 
    > >Digital Design Department 
    > > 
    > >Design of Systems on Silicon  	http://www.ds2.es 
    > >Av. Charles Robert Darwin, 2  	Phone.  +34-96-136 60 04 
    > >Parc Tecnologic	              	                Ext. 152 
    > >46980 Paterna (VALENCIA)      	FAX     +34-96-136 62 50 
    > >SPAIN 
    > 
    >=====================================================
    === 
    > > 
    > > 
    > 
    > >------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---- 
    > >From: Rudolf Usselmann <rudi@a... > 
    > >Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:11:02 +0700 
    > >Subject: Re: [usb] question about the DLL in the UTMI 
    > > 
    > >On Wednesday 19 September 2001 17:11, you wrote: 
    > >> Jiang daosan wrote: 
    > >> >  Hi, Luis: 
    > >> > 
    > >> >      Thank you so much for your answer.  However, I 
    > think there maybe 
    > >> > something 
    > >> > 
    > >> > to talk about more, As you written: 
    > >> > >To design a HS PLL you need an external clock of 
    > 480x4 MHz (at least, 
    > >> > > I think) to obtain the data signal synchronized 
    > with the internally 
    > >> > > extracted 480 MHz clock. 
    > >> > 
    > >> > I was wonder that there is some mistake? As the 
    > external clock of 480x4 
    > >> > MHz is so high, it may be impossibe in practice. I 
    > saw the needed 
    > >> > external clock in Phlips ISP1501 is 12MHz. In my 
    > opinion, the internal 
    > >> > local 480MHz clock is produced by the Clock 
    > Multiplier with the 
    > >> > external 12MHz Clock in the UTM, And then it was made 
    > some Phase delay 
    > >> > by the HS DLL to synchronized to the clock of the 
    > incoming data. That 
    > >> > delayed Clock is the exacted clock. Am I right ? 
    > >> 
    > >> Yes, sorry, I was thinking on my design... 
    > >> 
    > >> The delayed clock you are referring is the extracted clock 
    > (480 MHz 
    > >> one). But, how to 
    > >> design in HDL a Digital PLL for HS? I don't know another 
    > way of 
    > >> syncronizing both clocks (internal and the incoming data 
    > one) than 
    > >> sampling the incoming data with a quicker clock. Any other 
    > idea? 
    > >> 
    > >> 
    > >> 
    ======================================================
    == 
    > >> Luis Jose Perez Lafuente      	luis.perez@d...  
    > > 
    > >High Speed USB uses a bit clock of 480 Mhz, Full Speed of 12 
    > Mhz. 
    > > 
    > >A HS PHY uses a analog PLL to recover the 480 Mhz clock. You do 
    > not 
    > >need a 4x480Mhz clock (unless you do want to design a Digital 
    > LL, in which 
    > >case you would need at least 4x oversampling). 
    > > 
    > >rudi 
    > > 
    > > 
    > 
    > >------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---- 
    > >From: Rudolf Usselmann <rudi@a... > 
    > >Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 08:26:02 +0700 
    > >Subject: [usb] USB Core Updated 
    > > 
    > >I have changed the reset in the USB core to be active high and 
    > async. 
    > > 
    > >Latest and greatest is in the CVS ... 
    > > 
    > >rudi 
    > > 
    > > 
    > 
    > >------------------------------------------------------------------
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