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From: Shehryar Shaheen <shehryar.shaheen@u...>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:48:05 +0100
Subject: Re: [oc] OC free IP cores, % of useability?
Yes, nothing wrong with having ads, its a good idea.
Regards
Shehryar
----- Original Message -----
From: "Damjan Lampret" <lampret@o...>
To: <cores@o...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [oc] OC free IP cores, % of useability?
> Hi Antti,
>
> this issue is being addressed. As cores will be rated, those with lower
> rating will be moved "in the background". It is also expected that cores
in
> development are those that will not be rated high and therefore the system
> will automatically rank cores if finished or in development, their quality
> etc. Please have some patience, all work on opencores.org is being done
w/o
> any financial support. If you can donate $1M I'm sure we can have much
> better web site in a week time, with better cores, commercial support,
> commercial developer tools available to developers etc. But right now
there
> is no sponsors that would directly donate cash.
>
> So I ask everyone, right now, would you accept to have some commercial ads
> on opencores.org web site? These ads would be small, a normal user
browsing
> the web site wouldn't notice them. All income from the ads would be spent
> on:
> - better opencores.org web site
> - authors of quality cores would get some financial compensation
> - get some decent commercial tools to developers (for example one thing
I'm
> thinking for a long time is to add a good linter tool to the cvs checkin -
> when a developer commits his changes, the linter tool checks and reports
> back to the developer if he is braking coding guidelines (reported back
via
> email); another thing is to set up simulators to do automatic regressions
of
> cores in the cvs and report back to develop if there are any problems)
>
> regards,
> Damjan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <antti@c...>
> To: <cores@o...>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:37 PM
> Subject: [oc] OC free IP cores, % of useability?
>
>
> > now I am getting burning ashes onto my face ;)
> >
> > free is not allways free.
> > if you have to spend time it find it for free, then you spent time
> > searching.
> > if you spent time trying to check it out you spent time.
> > if you tested it and it doesnt work you wasted time
> > many people do so, all of them waste time
> >
> > time is money.
> >
> > low quality cores being made public with no clear and proven
> > useability report cost money. Money from those who would
> > like to use them. Even though no money is paid, time is wasted.
> > Time/Money gets wasted.
> >
> > Time is something I personally do value. I like to buy time,
> > if I can give out some money to save my time I am happy.
> >
> > If donating some $ for the authors of the cores makes the
> > cores better quality, or better documentation, or better
> > compliance to different technologies and software, I may
> > donate some of the limited financial resources I have.
> >
> > This makes sense. Makes for me. If others do the same
> > then it may be enough for the core authors to improve
> > the overall quality of their Cores.
> >
> > I have spent some time checking out the cores at OC.
> > Actually I have spent several weeks checking them out.
> > My results are not so positive - sorry to say.
> >
> > There are several cores that are professional.
> >
> > Hovewer a large amount of projects are half way done
> > abondoned or not useable. Or no documentation or
> > only useable with single technology or synthesis tool, etc...
> >
> > And it is not possible to know this until you try to use them.
> >
> > There are really very few projects that work 'out of box'
> > this includes cores marked as 'done' and verified.
> >
> > That is everyone who uses cores from OC actually pays
> > indirectly (or wastes time and money). This wasted
> > time could be saved - it should be possible to adopt some
> > 'schemes' that makes it possible to somehow compensate
> > the time we win (by using better quality free cores) to those
> > who spend their time (to the authors of the cores).
> >
> > as of today I would say the amount of *real* good quality cores
> > at OC is below 5% (from all projects).
> >
> > Thats not a very high percent.
> > But this is my judgement after weeks spent checking the free(!) cores.
> >
> > Antti
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